DISCLAIMER: These posts contain hints, tips and ideas from folks that have had some experiences dealing with this. It is NOT meant to be legal advice here - just related experiences. Please consult with a reputable professional if necessary. Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:06:34 -0700 To: equinerescue@MyList.net From: Pat Calloway Subject: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards How about a brainstorming session like we did for fundraising? I'll keep the notes, edit them and stick 'em up on the Equine Rescue Mailing List Home Page for future reference. I'm fiddling with designing some business cards for ROAN (Racehorse Outplacement Assistance Network) and wondered how many of you folks have business cards for your rescue efforts? What information do you include? What information do you not include? Graphics or no? Color of card stock? Color of type? What sort of reactions have you gotten on them? Here's the basic plan for the ROAN cards: Racehorse Outplacement Assistance Network (ROAN) (the above will be larger type than the rest) Helping horses find new careers via the Internet stock horse head grapic http://pages/prodigy.com/equinerescue/roan.htm roanetwork@aol.com Pat (phone number) Lori (phone number) Can't quite reproduce the formatting, fonts, etc, but that's the basic plan. Comments? Anything missing? Pat Calloway, Equine Rescue/Creatures Listowner epona@concentric.net (AZ) http://pages.prodigy.com/equinerescue/home.htm http://pages.prodigy.com/equinerescue/creature.htm -- From: "Deborah Peterson-Lipscomb" To: Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:07:15 -0500 so much for my nap, I have cards that are white background with green lettering I wanted to put a horse's head on them but it takes up room I also don't think you should make a stand out card (bright color) back ground yes, they are easier to find but I have found the more "business professional look" makes other skeptical people think I am NOT a leftist, right wing (or what ever weirdo type inserted) person and I am legitimate. sometime less is better but you have to remember about first impressions and that business cards are a marketing tool for what ever you are"selling" even it's not selling you are doing. I think you should leave off offensive things like meat man and jargon used by those involved in the business. it is like if a coffee salesperson started talking in "coffee language" I would have no clue what he was saying and most people don't know what you are talking about get turned off and don't hear you soooo, you just lost one person and about 3 cents. I made the mistake of putting a phone number that rings in my house( that is not my home phone but still is registered to my address) watch out for weirdos use a beeper or mobile registered to anywhere but your home also write the phone company or whomever you need to inform in your area to have the caller id say unavailable (or whatever) so they can't get your # that way too. you get calls at all hours ~ yes the middle of the night and irate people about such and such abusing a horse at 2:30 in the morning is not fun !!! not that it ever is but we have to get our beauty rest too! got mine done at Kinko's but I am going to work on them myself next time around..... hope this helps not trying to be a know it all just, my experience to pass on so someone can learn from my mistakes too... Deb in Dallas domitadpl@msn.com --- From: "May, Cris" To: "'equinerescue@mylist.net'" Subject: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:43:11 -0400 >>>how many of you folks havebusiness cards for your rescue efforts? What information do you include? What information do you not include? Graphics or no? Color of card stock? Color of type? What sort of reactions have you gotten on them? The Days End business cards are light blue w/black printing. Front of the card has: Name (in the same script style we use on everything) DEFHR graphic logo A New Beginning (script) short mission statement line address phone & fax nos. e-mail and web site addresses The back of the card contains: List of directors with another small graphic on the right line Instructions on reporting neglect or abuse. Hope this helps. ~Cris May (slyshot@mindspring.com) Days End Farm Horse Rescue http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6768 --- Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 11:44:33 -0700 To: equinerescue@MyList.net, "Elizabeth S. Kiley" From: Pat Calloway Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards At 03:21 PM 10/8/98 +0000, Elizabeth S. Kiley wrote: >Pat > Do you have someone to print these biz cards for a reasonable rate? >My boyfriends father owns a printing company. They always do biz >cards. If you don't have someone to do them I can try and get a >deal! His father actually owns a racehorse (don't worry, he does > not send them to slaughter), maybe if he knew the cause involved he >would do it really cheap. Let me know if you are interested in >finding out. Also, if anyone needs other things printed maybe I can help. >I didn't realize I may have a really valuable asset here for us. I was planning on using Office Max/Staples - one of those chains. They do business cards for $10-$45 depending on paper quality, ink colors, logos, etc. Is that a reasonable price? - seems like it to me, but I don't get stuff printed up too often and I suspect that others here probably don't either. --- Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 11:56:42 -0700 To: equinerescue@MyList.net From: Pat Calloway Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards At 03:07 PM 10/8/98 -0500, Deborah Peterson-Lipscomb wrote: >so much for my nap, I have cards that are white background with green >lettering I wanted to put a horse's head on them but it takes up room I >also don't think you should make a stand out card (bright color) back ground Aw - c'mon - I really, really wanted to make them neon pink and lime green! ;-> Actually I was thinking more of a white, off-white or beige background with mostly black type and *possibly* the ROAN in red to make it stand out slightly. Good point though - I do think it depends on what you are "selling" as far as colors and design on cards. I grabbed my file of business cards (and you folks probably have something like this around your house as well to take a look) and most of the "serious" business cards are whites and beiges and the 'fun' stuff is brightly colored. (Although I notice my dentist has floating teeth on his, but he's a little odd anyway. ) Neon pink for my hairdresser, a wood background for the handyman, bright yellow for Truly Nolen the bug company - matches their trucks, blues for super shuttle that match their vans - just depends on their "style." >the mistake of putting a phone number that rings in my house( that is not my >home phone but still is registered to my address) watch out for weirdos >use a beeper or mobile registered to anywhere but your home also write the >phone company or whomever you need to inform in your area to have the caller >id say unavailable (or whatever) so they can't get your # that way too. >you get calls at all hours ~ yes the middle of the night and irate I'm unlisted/unpublished and have caller id as does my partner, so I think we're pretty safe. Also have my phone set up to not show my number when I call and have calls with blocked numbers blocked from calling me. And use an answering machine to screen stuff. Cell phone is usually not on unless I'm expecting a call or unless one of my phone lines is out like it is today. ROAN only takes information on horses available and doesn't act to sell the horse in anyway - that's between the person selling and buying - we just pass the information along, so we're a bit different from a lot of other rescues in that respect. We have posters up in various areas around the track's backside and offices that explain what we do and the cards will be in a little pouch in the poster. Of course they may get passed along elsewhere too! Good points, Deb! -- Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 14:59:41 -0300 To: equinerescue@MyList.net From: The Murray Gang Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards >I was planning on using Office Max/Staples - one of those chains. They do >business cards for $10-$45 depending on paper quality, ink colors, logos, >etc. Is that a reasonable price? - seems like it to me, but I don't get >stuff printed up too often and I suspect that others here probably don't >either. When I need business cards, I use my word processing program and a company called Paper Direct. I buy gorgeous card stock and brochure papers from them and I print my own cards. That way I can print 10 or 1000; whatever I need. Works great. Janis M. ICQ # 7030297 -- Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 12:07:25 -0700 To: equinerescue@MyList.net From: Pat Calloway Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards At 09:43 AM 10/9/98 -0400, May, Cris wrote: > >The back of the card contains: > >List of directors with another small graphic on the right >line >Instructions on reporting neglect or abuse. This is a very good idea, Cris! Would you mind reproducing it here for other folks to use or paraphrase? I know it's "extra" to have printing on both sides, but sounds like something like this would make it cost effective. Anyone else use a two sided business card for their efforts? Or perhaps a folded one? -- Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 15:10:45 -0300 To: equinerescue@MyList.net From: The Murray Gang Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards >Anyone else use a two sided business card for their efforts? Or perhaps a >folded one? Doing my own printing, I can use both sides and do all the graphics and colors I want without having to worry about buying a minimum number of printed cards or someone charging extra for colors and such. Janis M. ICQ # 7030297 -- Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 12:44:57 -0700 To: equinerescue@MyList.net From: Pat Calloway Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards At 03:10 PM 10/9/98 -0300, The Murray Gang wrote: >Doing my own printing, I can use both sides and do all the graphics and >colors I want without having to worry about buying a minimum number of >printed cards or someone charging extra for colors and such. > What kind of printer do you have, Janis? I've been less than delighted with some of my results using my Canon. The self design is a REALLY good idea for those that don't need a lot of business cards and are creative folks. -- From: "Deborah Peterson-Lipscomb" To: , "The Murray Gang" Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:01:54 -0500 Janis, what word processing program are you using? I saw a bunch of different kinds of programs at the store for stationary and such ? I have works and word already do these work? does anyone prefer one over another and why are some better than others? I priced the store programs from 25 to over 200 so if a stack (of 100) costs 45 but you have to pay more for individual names or more for double siding then I might think it was more economical and possibly it could be used as a tax deductible expense? (not trying to put anyone out of business I for one would screw it up 20 times before I got it right I type by hunt and peck never had too before I got "ill" daily during typing class in high school hind site is 20/20 Deb in Dallas domitadpl@msn.com -- Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 17:01:42 -0300 To: equinerescue@MyList.net, Pat Calloway From: The Murray Gang Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards >What kind of printer do you have, Janis? I've been less than delighted >with some of my results using my Canon. I have a Canon BJC-620 and have never had any problems even printing pics on photo paper. For just plain black-and-white printing I have a laser printer. >The self design is a REALLY good idea for those that don't need a lot of >business cards and are creative folks. I'm not terribly creative, but with all the graphics I've "gathered" in my library and all the fonts available, it turns out OK. And Paper Direct is a wonderful company to deal with. Janis -- From: slyshot@mindspring.com To: , "Pat Calloway" Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Business Cards Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:44:42 -0400 >Would you mind reproducing it here for >other folks to use or paraphrase? I'm assuming you only want the neglect/abuse info here ... "Report all complaints of neglect or abuse to your local animal control facility or humane organization. Days End Farm works in coordination with other agencies to provide shelter, rehabilitation, training, foster care and adoption to abused and neglected horses." The mission statement language on the front of the card is short, not the full DEF statement: "Providing shelter and a better life for abused and neglected horses".