DISCLAIMER: These posts contain hints, tips and ideas from folks that have had some experiences dealing with this. It is NOT meant to be legal advice here - just related experiences. Please consult with a reputable professional if necessary. -From: "David Emmons" To: "Equine Rescue list e-mail" Subject: EQ-ResQ: Reference Libray collection request Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 07:08:24 -0500 2 book titles relating to horses have crossed my path. Both have been recommended by the reader and the topic seems helpful to where I am at. Could we spend some time sharing horse book titles that have been helpful to have around???? The 2 I have heard are tried and true are: From Carol (and JUDGE): The Ultimate Guide to Pampering Your Horse By June Evers (ps Carol, I have it on order) From a recent post list: Horsekeeping on a small acreage By Cherry Hill Thank you, Christine Emmons "Living in the Fabulous Florida Keys" From: HVIDEO885@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:44:58 EDT To: equinerescue@MyList.net, dkemmon@ibm.net Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Reference Libray collection request In a message dated 9/1/98 6:56:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time, dkemmon@ibm.net writes: > From Carol (and JUDGE): The Ultimate Guide to Pampering Your Horse > By June Evers June Evers also has another book called "The Original Book of Horse Treats" that I found when looking for the one Carol got. Full of treats for your horse from hors d'oeuvres to desserts, plus home remedies for minor health problems. Sharon Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 11:07:42 -0700 To: equinerescue@MyList.net From: Pat Calloway Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Reference Library collection In-Reply-To: <000001bdd5a1$3a5f0a80$57846420@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-equinerescue@MyList.net Reply-To: equinerescue@MyList.net, Pat Calloway At 07:08 AM 9/1/98 -0500, David Emmons wrote: >Could we spend some time sharing horse book titles that have been helpful to >have around???? Suggestion on this subject/topic: please provide ISBN numbers, publishers, etc and tell WHY this books has been helpful to you and give a bit of a background on the information contained in it. Videos might be useful too. I'll save 'em and stick it in the archives for later reference. Pat Calloway, Equine Rescue/Creatures Listowner epona@concentric.net (AZ) http://pages.prodigy.com/equinerescue/home.htm http://pages.prodigy.com/equinerescue/creature.htm Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:12:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nancy A. McHugh" To: Equine Rescue list e-mail , David Emmons Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Reference Libray collection request I am a new member to the list. I live in the Philadelphia area and have a shire-cross yearling that I am "raising". In terms of books I have found helpful for both health and behavior matters are: Mary Wanless's _For the good of the Horse_ and Linda Tellington-Jones's _TEAM Training_ (I think that is the title). The Wanless book focuses on complementary health appraches and other basics that have been overlooked, such as dental care, proper shoeing, and correct saddle fit. i thought it was a great book. The Tellington-Jones book provides a means to retrain or train horses in a manner that works with horse behavior. I think this would be a great book for people working with rescue horses. IT focuses on creating trust between the rider and the horse through groundwork and various body practices. I have used a lot of her methods in training my baby and they do work. I look forward to hearing other suggestions. Nancy McHugh Phila, PA From: Nonetfarm@aol.com Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:58:40 EDT To: equinerescue@MyList.net Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Reference Library collection Does anyone know anything about a book called (I think) "Poor Richard's Horse Keeping"? It's supposed to be full of money and time saving tips for horse owners. Susan From: Strgazrr20@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:47:23 EDT To: equinerescue@MyList.net, dkemmon@ibm.net Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Reference Libray collection request I have a book called "The Book of The Horse". It was a gift from a friend when I was 11 years old. I do believe it's still around but I can't remember the author. It lists breeds of horses and skeleton picutues for reference and learning. Also, has some history of some of the *greats* ( IE: Man 'O War, Secretariet). I always loved that book! But now it's packed away with all my other childhood things. Angela KS From: "Elizabeth S. Kiley" To: equinerescue@MyList.net Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:45:01 +0000 Subject: EQ-ResQ: disappointing veterinary book-Don't buy it! I recall seeing people post their recommendations of good horse books and I would like to post one I don't recommend. I just bought "How to Be Your Own Veterinarian (Sometimes)" by Ruth B. James DVM. I was reading the section on Coggins and this vet recommends that if you buy a horse that tests positive for Coggins you should send it to the "canners" because this is where you will get the most money for the animal. I am totally apalled that a vet would recommend this over euthanizing the animal! Just wanted to let everyone know this tidbit of info so noone else here will contribute to the profits of someone who condones slaughter! Beth To: equinerescue@MyList.net Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:07:22 -0400 Subject: EQ-ResQ: Re: disappointing veterinary book-Don't buy it! From: lisaviger@juno.com (Lisa A Remi-Viger) <> I have the book and was also appalled at the suggestion. However, if you read the whole section, she has included many alternatives to putting down a EIA positive horse, as well as the incidence of false positives from other antibodies. I also believe the author is truly uninformed about what the slaughter process is as she goes on to say horse owners have a tremendous responsibility to prevent the spread of the disease. And what better way to spread it than at a crowded slaughter auction where there *are* horses purchased by non-killer buyers as well? I believe she may use the word slaughter interchangeably with euthanizing and may have meant a rendering company when referring to the "canners." But, perhaps she didn't and did indeed mean actual slaughter. If so, she knows absolutely *nothing* about the slaughter industry and, as a practicing vet and an author, needs to be informed. There are other sections in the book which I find objectionable as well. It was clearly written by someone who is more on the side of looking at horses as a business, an investment, and property. This vet is certainly not the only person who feels that way. However, despite the material *I* find objectionable, I have also found it to be *very* informative on many diseases and conditions as well as emergency first aid and when one *must* call in a vet and when one can probably handle the situation themselves. In all, I found it to be a valuable book that I use frequently. On the other hand, I have thought about sending a letter to the publishers pointing out the objectionable material. Personally, I feel its merits overcome its shortcomings. I *do* wish the author had a different view on horses in general. Lisa Viger Cricket (12 yo STB gelding, Sadie (20+ ASB mare), Ricki (21 yo Appy POA) From: Nonetfarm@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:23:58 EDT To: equinerescue@MyList.net, Ennui09@aol.com Subject: Re: EQ-ResQ: Books In a message dated 98-09-24 10:43:54 EDT, you write: << (Concise Guide to) Nutrition in the Horse by David W. Ramey, Stephen E. Duren >> I have this book. I like it, it seems sensible to me except for one thing. In reference to needing minerals and eating dirt they say that horses don't eat what their bodies need. They just eat what they want. But in reference to needing fiber, they say to give pastured horses free access to all the hay they could want and they'll eat enough high fiber hay to prevent grass founder. The founder being caused by the possible lack of fiber in the grass. Supposedly if the grass has a lot fiber in it, they won't eat the hay because they don't need it. Sounds contradictory to me! Can anyone explain this to me? About the book, if you want to know more, e-mail me privately. I'll have to find it, though. I set it down in this mess somewhere......... Susan